If you have ever gone to big, in-person coaching events, masterminds, or conferences, youâve probably come back to your team with a TON of ideas you want to implement.
In this episode, property management growth experts Jason and Sarah Hull talk about how to bring new ideas back to your business and implement them without totally overwhelming your team.
You’ll Learn
[01:22] Why we invest in coaching ourselves
[05:47] New ideas take time to implement
[09:37] You need better hooks!
[10:39] How to avoid overwhelming your team with new ideas
[17:54] The best live event for property managers
Tweetables
“People give up long before they get results in anything.”
“If you quit before you get the results, it’s never going to work.”
“You can guarantee failure if you stop.”
“We grossly underestimate the amount of work that people put into something to achieve success or to get a result.”
Resources
Transcript
[00:00:00] Jason: Itâs difficult because we come back from an event and then we pull the pin on a grenade and throw it into the middle of the room with our team. Weâre like, âHey, hereâs this really exciting thing!â And itâs exciting for us. But for them, theyâre like, âI already have all this work that Iâm expected to do, and you want to like change everything now?â
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[00:01:00] We want to transform the industry, eliminate the BS, build awareness, change perception, expand the market, and help the best property management entrepreneurs win. Iâm your host, property management growth expert, Jason Hull, the founder and CEO of DoorGrow, along with Sarah Hull, co owner and COO of DoorGrow. Now letâs get into the show. All right. So we just got back from doing what?
[00:01:25] Sarah: We went to two events back to back, which is a little crazy, but we did it. So we went to a Mastermind right outside of Nashville, Tennessee. And right after that, we went to a big event down in Orlando. Itâs Funnel Hacking Live.
[00:01:41] So we were gone for like a whole week.
[00:01:45] Jason: Yeah, a whole week of travel and events and howâd you like it?
[00:01:50] Sarah: I loved it. So it was a lot in a short amount of time especially with the travel. So we did four cities in three days. So that was kind of crazy, but it was really great.
[00:02:02] And then it was funny because we did our mastermind event and right after that, then we went to Funnel Hacking Live, and on the way to, and like from both of these events, we were then watching like an online course from Alex Hormozi. So it was just like information overload.
[00:02:21] Jason: Yeah so much. We have a lot of ideas. We do. We took a lot of notes. We have a lot of notes, a lot of ideas, and it can be a bit overwhelming. A lot of you probably feel like that when you go to events. You get a lot of ideas, a lot of stuff. And so we talked about how we need, like when we have some space, because weâre getting caught up in all the work that we missed and everybody needing us.
[00:02:45] We need to block out at least a day or two to really just digest all of the stuff that we got and to prioritize it and figure out whereâs this going to fit in with what weâre doing. So for you, what are some of the key takeaways that you got that you feel like you are motivated to work on as a result of all the stuff that we just downloaded?
[00:03:07] Sarah: Well, thereâs so many things I think if I were to have to choose right now and prioritize, I think probably like building my own personal brand would be on the top of the list. And doing the thing that I hate the most, which is social media. Yay. I hate social media so much. I just hate it, but itâs a thing that youâve got to do, I guess.
[00:03:31] Jason: Yeah. So a lot of people I think make the mistake of trying to build up the business brand on social media. Which generally is a lot less effective because people want to interact with people and most of the people that you follow are not a business, theyâre a person, right? And so I think thatâs one of the things that took away too, is I need to really focus on building up my personal brand.
[00:03:54] You need to focus on building up your personal brand and those two personal brands combined, you know, if weâre focused on a business brand can feed that, but really, people want to connect with people. And so Iâve been really putting a lot more effort into short form video, cranking out a lot more content so that I can build a bigger and bigger following.
[00:04:14] And the one thing that really stuck out to me related to that is the importance of consistency and doing a piece of content every single day, rain or shine and so this is something weâre trying to get in place so that we can crank out something every single day.
[00:04:34] Sarah: Every day. So Iâm going to go from not doing social media to doing social media every day. It sounds horrible.
[00:04:44] Jason: Yeah. And I mean, from the first event we went to, one of the things that I took away is I need to go live a lot more often I need to be really contributing and adding value to our free Facebook group, which if youâre a property manager, make sure youâre in it. DoorGrowClub.Com and just providing value and not being so worried about everything looking perfect.
[00:05:08] You know, one of our mentors, heâs just like driving, heâs in a t shirt, like he just goes live in that group all the time. But then also putting out like nicely branded content on short form videos, something that I took away from the Funnel Hacking Live event that we went to, and putting that out every single day.
[00:05:26] And they showed these examples, right, of, you know, women and men that had done something every single day for a year, and how things just started to explode. Yeah. Eventually, once the algorithm learned they were going to be there, and they had a topic, and they were consistent, and they started to build an audience, then they started to get featured, and then they started to explode.
[00:05:47] Sarah: And then also, the other thing, too, is there are a few examples of this, where I donât remember which girl it was, maybe it was Jodi, maybe Jodi, I donât remember, but she was saying âWell, my brother was going to start this business and then he started doing social media content and then he stopped and I had asked him like, âHey, how are things going?â
[00:06:04] And he’s like, ‘ah, yeah, I stopped doing that.'” And she said, “well, what do you mean you stopped?” And he’s like, “no, I didn’t, it didn’t work. Nothing happened from it.” And he had only done it for a very short period of time, so he gave up. And I think that’s what happens is people give up long before they get results in anything.
[00:06:23] And itâs not just social media itâs oftentimes in anything, you know, theyâre, you know, trying to make relationships with investors or with other real estate agents or their neighbor property managers you know, and theyâre like, âwell, it didnât work, you know, I called, you know, I sent 500 emails and I did, you know, 100 calls and it didnât work.â
[00:06:40] Yeah. And then if you quit before you get the results, itâs never going to work, right? So you can guarantee failure if you stop.
[00:06:48] Jason: Yeah. I think one of the things I realized is that we grossly underestimate the amount of work that people put into something to achieve success or to get a result. And so, like, we learned this watching one of the Hormozi videos.
[00:07:06] He was talking about the sample size sometimes is just too small. He was like, â I did 300 flyers and I didnât get any calls.â and he said, how many, did the guy do a day? 5,000. Heâs like, âI do 5,000 a day.â He did 3,000 one time, like in a month. And he was like, âoh. This is what I thought was required. Itâs actually this.â
[00:07:27] Sarah: Think about it, like if youâre doing 300, if you contact 300 people, yeah, did you tap out your market? And the answer to that is probably no. Are there more than 300 investors in your market? I bet there are.
[00:07:39] Are there more than 300 real estate agents where you are? Unless youâre in a tiny little podunk town like I was, you probably are.
[00:07:47] Jason: Yeah, so thatâs something that really stood out to me is Iâm not doing enough. And so the level of work and the level of commitment that some of these entrepreneurs had in their businesses.
[00:07:59] really created some contrast for me. I was like, âwow, Iâm not doing that.â So what did I do? Like weâre back. It was Monday yesterday. And I was like, all right, I got up at like four in the morning [4:30] in the morning. And I just worked on connecting and reaching out to a hundred people. So I sent out like a hundred voice messages to Instagram followers.
[00:08:23] Thatâs my goal is to just crank out connecting to a hundred people every day and just do this. And that will create some connection and that will start to build stuff up. And if I put in the reps doing that, and then maybe get some support, I also challenged my team, like, see if you can reach out to a hundred people each day.
[00:08:43] So weâll see if we start to see some results. And I already started having conversations just from the initial outreach. So if I just do that every day, that should have a significant impact on the business and it compounds over time. And so then Iâm also cranking out a lot more videos like this morning, you know, Iâm took my daughter to school. On the way back where Iâm not having to listen to Taylor Swift or I listen to her talk about Taylor Swift and tell me all the, like, theories and ideas about Taylor Swift. Like whatâs her catâs name. Right, like, all this stuff about Taylor Swift because sheâs like a Taylor Swift fanatic.
[00:09:17] Like, as soon as sheâs out of the car, I started recording videos while Iâm driving. So then I have some, like, Iâve got my phone, I know how to get home, so, like, Itâs recording videos and Iâm just talking about some different things. Hardest is sometimes just think, what should I talk about? So sometimes Iâm asking chat GPT, like, âwhat should I talk about?â
[00:09:34] You know, And generating some prompts. And another thing that I learned about, or that really kind of sunk in a little more effectively was the idea of having hooks. A lot of people think they have a lead problem or a lead magnet problem or a lead gen problem. And really what Steven Larson, a friend of mine mentioned is you really just have a hook problem.
[00:10:03] You just donât have a good hook to capture peopleâs attention in the first three to five seconds, that hook on a phone call matters on your marketing matters more than anything else. And so not having a good hook in the beginning can really cause you to lose a lot of money if youâre spending money on advertising.
[00:10:21] So Iâm now trying to be more conscious of the hook at the beginning of my videos that Iâm creating and being more effective at creating hooks that capture attention or that are a pattern interrupt to get people to pay attention. Because if I donât do that. It doesnât matter how good the content is.
[00:10:39] Sarah: So I think one of the other things too is, and this happens every time weâve seen it over and over again with our clients too, is theyâll come, theyâll go, especially one of our events because we jam pack stuff. So theyâll come to one of the events and then theyâre like, âyeah, but I have so many great ideas. I donât know how to implement all of it.â Or theyâre like, âyeah, but I donât know if my team will go for that. Like, I want to do that, but like, I just donât know if my team is going to go for that.â And I think itâs really common when someone goes to an event and they were there. So they had that experience. They saw everything they experienced at all. Like it sunk in, it hit them and theyâre like, âoh yeah, like itâs super clear to me why we have to do this.â And then they want to come back and they want to change things in the business and their team didnât have that same experience. Yeah, so the team wasnât at the event.
[00:11:27] The team is like, âhey, weâre just holding down the fort while youâre out, you know, doing this event,â and then you come back like a crazy person and youâre like âguys, weâre going to change the whole business model! Weâre going to start doing things like this. Weâre going to do things like this instead and weâre going to do all of this and I got all these great ideas and hereâs what weâre going to do!â And the team was like, âwhat are you talking about? Why?â Like You come in hot like a crazy person. And I think thereâs kind of a better way to approach it. The one of the things I think thatâs really helpful. Is having some sort of strategic planning system like we use DoorGrow OS. Thatâs our operating system. Itâs also available for you guys. If youâre interested, itâs like 97 bucks a month but itâs a really great planning system so that instead of coming back with like 20,000 ideas and going, âyeah, Iâm going to implement all of them.â
[00:12:15] Realistically, youâre not. Realistically, there are going to be things that are going to be priority and they take precedence and then there are going to be things that maybe you never do. And theyâre going to be things that you want to do, but theyâre going to be way down the line. And you need to really find a way to like organize all of this stuff and then prioritize.
[00:12:32] What are we actually going to do right now? Like, what would be the biggest thing that we could do right now to move the business forward? So something like that would help and having your team involved in that is a really great way to make sure that your team is actually bought in Instead of you coming back and coming like âhey, weâre going to do this. Weâre going to do that this, and weâre changing this and weâre like going to hire these people and maybe weâre going to fire, you know, John over there.â Then the team is like âwhoa!â like they feel like railroaded because they didnât have the same experience that you had.
[00:13:03] So having a meeting, weâre going to do this to o, having a meeting with your team and just sharing the ideas. And youâre not saying, âweâre going to do this.â All youâre doing is just sharing the ideas that you learned. And that way itâs like, âhey guys, I like, I learned this really cool thing and it kind of sparked an idea. Iâd like to talk about that and see if it makes sense. Like, what do you guys think about this?â And that way youâre involving your team in it instead of just saying, âweâre going to do this.â And theyâre like, âoh, I donât want to do that.â We have to keep in mind that people donât like change. Change is scary.
[00:13:37] Itâs different. Itâs like youâre getting them outside of their comfort zone and outside of their box. But if theyâre part of the conversation, and they feel like they have input, and like their opinion in the whole discussion actually matters and counts for something, theyâll be a lot more bought in to whatever ideas you actually decide to implement and move forward with.
[00:13:59] Jason: Yeah, I think thatâs really important. Itâs difficult because we come back from an event and then we pull the pin on a grenade and throw it into the middle of the room with our team. Weâre like, âHey, hereâs this really exciting thing!â And itâs exciting for us. But for them, theyâre like, âI already have all this work that Iâm expected to do, and you want to like change everything now?â And so our team members, theyâre not entrepreneurs for a reason, right? They want a job that gives them safety and security. They want peace. And we get a kick out of innovating, doing new things, changing stuff a lot of times. And we have this big picture vision and weâre risk takers to start a business.
[00:14:38] Weâre cowboys and cowgirls. Weâre wild, right? And that can really be disruptive to the business if we donât get them gently to buy into the vision. And thereâs a way to do that, right? We do that through DoorGrow OS and through how we plan here at DoorGrow. You and I will probably talk about a bunch of ideas.
[00:14:57] Weâve already been talking a ton about all these different ideas that we got and all the things we could implement, all the things that we can do. And then we can figure out what we want to prioritize before we just go bombard the team with everything. And then we have a cadence of planning. So the things that do matter to us, we can start to mix into our cadence of planning, but thereâs a lot of things that we got from this that you and I can just take action on right away. Yeah. Without messing with the team at all. But it doesnât impact the team in any way, well, maybe inadvertently, but if I just start creating a whole bunch more videos, right? Thatâs my time or I can spend..
[00:15:36] Sarah: Madi will hear this and be like, âreally it doesnât affect the team?â
[00:15:39] Jason: Yeah, I know. My daughter who does the video editing and social media.
[00:15:43] Madi, Iâm with you.
[00:15:44] Sheâll be editing this episode and saying âright, rightâ
[00:15:48] Sarah: Her face yesterday. Yeah. Youâre like, âI want to do a short form video every day,â and she goes like, âevery day? Like everyâŠ?â And sheâs like, âhow soon are we going to do that?â And heâs like, âas soon as possible.â
[00:15:58] Jason: That was kind of a grenade. Yeah. And that may mean you, you need to build out the team a little bit. Maybe we need additional people, who knows, but.
[00:16:05] Sarah: So I think one of the things too that Aaron pointed out in the first part of our mastermind event that we went to is. Your team really needs consistency and your team needs to know that who theyâre working for is like, youâre a safe bet because thereâs a lot of jobs out there.
[00:16:24] They can go work for just about anyone, and theyâre with you. They need to trust you to of course, change things and move things forward but do so in a way that doesnât completely disrupt, you know, their sense of safety. So doing things slower than probably we would want to do them is really important, right?
[00:16:48] Because then if you come back and you just. Yep itâs a great analogy, just throwing the grenade in. Itâs, that is not safe. That is not steady. That is not slow. Thatâs like, âhey, we went to this event, we were gone for a week, and in the week we decided to change everything about the business.â The teamâs like, âwhat?â
[00:17:06] that means every time that you go to an event, your team is going to be panicked. Your team is going to panic. Theyâre going to go, âoh god. Theyâre going somewhere again. Oh crap. Now what?â And if we have this kind of sense of like impeding doom in the business then you can implement all of the ideas or none of the ideas or just one it wonât even matter what you do because your team, they need to be bought in and they need to feel safe, so that theyâre on board with actually doing things However youâre going to do them, it doesnât matter, but if you donât have the support of the team, and you arenât doing a good job at holding the, like, a good container for them, then youâre not doing yourself any favors.
[00:17:51] Jason: Yeah, good stuff. Well, we have an event thatâs coming up in May. Which will be DoorGrow live. So people have plenty of time to get ready for this. So if you want to be part of An event where you get a bunch of ideas and you can get a grenade to throw at your team, Iâm joking, then make sure you come to our DoorGrow live event Itâs it really is an awesome event.
[00:18:15] Okay, cool. Well, letâs go ahead and wrap this up. So if you are a property management entrepreneur and youâre wanting to add doors and youâre wanting to grow your business and youâre wanting to figure out operations because adding doors is starting to get uncomfortable for you, either of those issues, we can help you. Reach out to us at DoorGrow.
[00:18:33] And until next time to our mutual growth. Bye everyone.
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